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February 09, 2011

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Brandon - you are displaying a lack of knowledge about California history since the group that fought to shut down hydraulic mining was farmers. Far from using California's resources in a "beneficial manner", hydraulic miners caused damage to not only the natural environment but to other groups using California's resources in a more sustainable manner - farmers and commercial fishermen.

David: Thank you for your comments. Your accusation of "cherry picking" is off the mark. It seems clear to me that the underlying theme of Professor Moyle's post is disrespect for those who have dared to use California's natural resources in a beneficial manner. You are certainly correct that one point of Professor Moyle's was to work with what we've got. But I think it will be difficult to bring folks from the agricultural, mining, and other natural resource industries to the table when there is such disdain for what they have provided in the past.

Brandon Middleton

Hey Brandon -- you're cherry picking Moyle's blog post and misrepresenting what he said, viz:

"The South Yuba watershed is what can be called a partially reconciled landscape, where humans live in a damaged environment but some, at least, work to make it a better place for them and for native wild plants and animals. It is an evolving ecosystem, with change directed by humans, both deliberately and inadvertently. Improving the area further for desirable wild organisms will require considerable conscious effort."

He's not talking about banning humans or killing jobs or all the other BS that you've stuck in his mouth. Rather, he's talking about working with what we've got.

I'm sympathetic with your point, but as a libertarian, economist and critical thinker, I am upset that you've picked the wrong target, using the wrong rhetoric, for a phony attack on a strawman deep ecologist that fails and makes you look silly.

You may want to apologize, and I certainly recommend that you put a little more thought into your rhetoric before hitting "post where others can see it."

David at aguanomics

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